tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post4510911444497616069..comments2024-03-19T18:44:15.041+08:00Comments on Little Stories: "But I Didn't Tell A Lie ... I Just Didn't Tell The Whole Truth" - The SAFGilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-25170982469838329242010-06-05T02:57:00.603+08:002010-06-05T02:57:00.603+08:00Go Sentosa and take some tourist gamblers hostage ...Go Sentosa and take some tourist gamblers hostage and threaten to launch some of your fart at Singapore<br /><br />http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117500<br /><br />A group of renegade marine commandos seizes a stockpile of chemical weapons and takes over Alcatraz, with 81 tourists as hostages. Their leader, a former highly-decorated U.S. general, demands $100 million to be paid in ransom, as restitution to families of Marines who died in covert operations and were thereby denied compensationEd Harrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-59565494230374551292010-06-04T13:49:07.193+08:002010-06-04T13:49:07.193+08:00I'm involved in this year's SAF Day Parade...I'm involved in this year's SAF Day Parade and am claiming about $2,000 in make-up pay.<br /><br />My unit has 80 NSMen involved, to form one of several contingents.<br /><br />Taking $2,000 to be the average sum claimed by each of us, that's a whopping $152,000 to be paid out by Mindef! For just one contingent.<br /><br />Just how much does such a parade cost EVERY YEAR? Where does the money come from? You can do the sums yourself, and then see why there are so many people so against this colossal waste of resources and manpower. <br /><br />If NS is a necessity in the defence of our country, then please tell me what purpose a parade serves. <br /><br />What prices NS? <br /><br />What prices a man injured in an exercise? A loss of his ability to make a living? Oh, that's not such a big price to pay, right?<br /><br />Sacrifice yourself honourably for the nation? Sure, but who's going to take care of you when you're injured?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-17506816797831591392010-06-03T22:57:28.876+08:002010-06-03T22:57:28.876+08:00Most of us can definitely do without NS... two or ...Most of us can definitely do without NS... two or two and a half years of CPF and real pay in the working world.... Work experiences and savings... Go figure, whose money and sacrifices we're saving?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-71560580580439783782010-06-03T17:11:01.085+08:002010-06-03T17:11:01.085+08:00"NS is the only thing keeping the pansies we ..."NS is the only thing keeping the pansies we call "Singaporean boys" from actually turning into little girls."<br /><br />oh, really?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-3356898717219674322010-06-03T09:24:34.981+08:002010-06-03T09:24:34.981+08:00>> You speak of foolery when you are the one...>> You speak of foolery when you are the one idiot who actually knows nuts about how the commandos function. Really. Stop making yourself look anymore stupid than you already are.<br /><br />You do realise you have not actually provided any argument, nor any kind of evidence to support your point? At all? This is the intellectual equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "na na na I can't hear you".<br /><br />And how exactly would reporting the incident be detrimental? Don't tell me all the directly affected parties (i.e. the commandos) don't already know about it, and on top of that somehow manage to find a copy of ST over there to read?<br /><br />But thank you for stating that injuries of NSFs are classified. In my NS, one of my bunkmates died in the bunk, but there was no news report at all in the ST. Classified, of course. Absolutely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-49784384767095270512010-06-02T11:32:36.367+08:002010-06-02T11:32:36.367+08:00WaaAahahhh! Commando SOOOOOO sensitive, ahhh!
NSF...WaaAahahhh! Commando SOOOOOO sensitive, ahhh!<br /><br />NSF get shot, cannot tell. But regular get shot, can tell. <br /><br />Soooo logical, man!<br /><br />I guess you didn't read Mindef's latest report on this. They ADMITTED that they were WRONG not to disclose the NSF's accident.<br /><br />(But of course, they didn't really admit it lah. They just said that they were wrong not to disclose it SOONER .... <br /><br />.... So they can give the impression that they were going to disclose it anyway, but that the news went public before they could do so<br /><br />... Aiyah, pian gee na.).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-72273791131603667952010-06-02T11:15:45.564+08:002010-06-02T11:15:45.564+08:00You speak of foolery when you are the one idiot wh...You speak of foolery when you are the one idiot who actually knows nuts about how the commandos function. Really. Stop making yourself look anymore stupid than you already are.<br /><br />NS is the only thing keeping the pansies we call "Singaporean boys" from actually turning into little girls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-13129264435441655092010-06-02T10:23:52.812+08:002010-06-02T10:23:52.812+08:00For those that are about to serve NS soon, blame y...For those that are about to serve NS soon, blame your parents for their blind faith in the system.<br />For those who have served NS, think about your next generation and if you want your kids to go through what you go through.<br />NS is an anachronism and so is being Singaporean. Foreigners taking PR here are smart enough to make sure that their sons have an option to return to their home country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-67972239111517343582010-06-02T10:14:26.112+08:002010-06-02T10:14:26.112+08:00Your kind of comment can only fool people who have...Your kind of comment can only fool people who haven't actually been in the SAF. Unfortunately, this is a conscript nation, so there's hardly anyone you can fool.<br /><br />If there is no military security reason to stop the SAF from revealing that one regular was shot, then there is no military security reason to stop the SAF from revealing that an NSF was also shot.<br /><br />By the way, most of us are not from commando units. From our personal experiences, we also know of NSFs who got killed or badly injured, and about how these incidents were never disclosed to the public.<br /><br />"Whole picture" ... my ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-72280421583919111392010-06-02T00:05:02.897+08:002010-06-02T00:05:02.897+08:00This is the commandos unit we're talking about...This is the commandos unit we're talking about. <br /><br />Has it occured to none of you that the training itself is classified, and that by reporting the incident it would have been detrimental to the others still there? <br /><br />Seriously. Stop passing judgement on something you all have no idea, and are seeing only a very small part of the whole picture of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-78420677104367710452010-06-01T23:22:56.093+08:002010-06-01T23:22:56.093+08:00I guess this wasn't reported because... They w...I guess this wasn't reported because... They weren't dead. Just injured.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-38987218524284210732010-06-01T20:46:33.742+08:002010-06-01T20:46:33.742+08:00Dulce et decorum est pro patria moriDulce et decorum est pro patria moriAgagoogahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00450677050044943486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-27026741970823486962010-06-01T12:41:37.865+08:002010-06-01T12:41:37.865+08:00I'm stationed in Thailand. This story was publ...I'm stationed in Thailand. This story was published on 26 May on Bangkok Post in a small column stating only 1 injury. No mention of the other "incident". Mindef is well known for covering up "accidents". There were many cases of accidents involving death during my time in NS but I don't believe any of these stories were ever published by our one and only Straits Times. Mindef is good at sending the boys to DB though. Drivers being caught driving more than 60kmh (during my time) by the MP, boom, 7 days DB! Sitting beside a sleepy Thai driver during exercise in Thailand and the truck ran straight into a house killing the guy? Sorry, my condolences, here's $5,000 from the Government and a Singapore flag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-53354120154549101682010-05-31T14:23:00.615+08:002010-05-31T14:23:00.615+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.辰原https://www.blogger.com/profile/12727918915937558021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-26117986215847636422010-05-31T13:55:43.299+08:002010-05-31T13:55:43.299+08:00SAF rules are outdated. SAF regulars, especially t...SAF rules are outdated. SAF regulars, especially the officers and scholars are TOO overpaid.<br /><br />PM LEE, YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-42613799156020351742010-05-30T12:53:20.315+08:002010-05-30T12:53:20.315+08:00It is a disadvantage to be born a male in Singapor...It is a disadvantage to be born a male in Singapore, unless <br /><br />you are a white horse <br /><br />you know how to "keng"<br /><br />your family emigrate before your NS age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-39613661594732120882010-05-29T19:33:56.539+08:002010-05-29T19:33:56.539+08:00NS is a good excuse for cheap labour at the expens...NS is a good excuse for cheap labour at the expense of the citizens. They can afford billions to buy equipment but pay pittance to compensate for injuries. During my time there were so many accidents and deaths and I wondered how these NSmen were compensated. There was an NS corporal due to ROD to enter U. Sitting at the rear of the truck which hit a curb and overturned he was paralysed after being pinned under. His life and future has been shattered forever. I am sure there are lots of such cases and it would be good if someone takes it upon themselves to record the negative side of NS. NS began in 1949 and most of us who had served are still alive to tell our story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-86769980035437441442010-05-29T14:47:29.290+08:002010-05-29T14:47:29.290+08:00Hey it's election year. The deadline is next y...Hey it's election year. The deadline is next year jan but it's probably this year, so unless someone dies, the image of maimed, dying saf men in a country without war shouldn't be in the goldfish memory public's minds. Just watch the goodies will be coming in soon, and nobody will remember about this. Injured soldiers? WHO CARES? As long as they have money for us. Just show me the moneyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-80178693639319720042010-05-29T02:27:23.335+08:002010-05-29T02:27:23.335+08:00SAF? They never take us NS people as human. They U...SAF? They never take us NS people as human. They USE us for their promotion, their performance, bonus. Then when they finish their regular and get to senior position outside by the SAF network, they sabo your promotion because they just parachute in while you can promotion.<br /><br />And these SAF people in the senior outside positions let in the foreigners by support FT policy to screw citizen backside after they used you to get their promotion and bonus.<br /><br />They don't care you need to earn money to pay tax to pay their salary and support your family. They will make sure they cover their backside ask you go IPPT and RT not care you need to compete foreigners. And if you finish your 10 reservist before 35 they will still screw you by not MR you even though they should.<br /><br />Support SAF is loyal to country?<br /><br />NO WAY.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-67032234462751599372010-05-29T00:39:32.863+08:002010-05-29T00:39:32.863+08:00WHITE HORSE not just for the army ... it applies a...WHITE HORSE not just for the army ... it applies also to every aspect of life in SIN. Education, buying condo, priority in parking etc. If you have the link ... why not use it.<br /><br />I do not see anything wrong with being WHITE HORSE.... I am not one however... but if you are born in their shoes YOU WILL LIKE IT.SMSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-78692456845550615842010-05-29T00:37:01.915+08:002010-05-29T00:37:01.915+08:00Why only now release the information ..... i think...Why only now release the information ..... i think must be somebody who knows that MINDEF will hit the roof if it goes into the papers.<br /><br />Ayyway, i personally think that the safety standards has not improved since my time. Let's just convert the army to high tech. by sending drones and robots to the battle field instead of humans.SMSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-353080450841274472010-05-28T23:38:58.220+08:002010-05-28T23:38:58.220+08:00Anon above,
You idiot or what? Of course not lah...Anon above,<br /><br />You idiot or what? Of course not lah. You never heard of the white horse list meh?<br /><br />The commander must also be an idiot to allow it to happen. They know the consequences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-68173536332849130422010-05-28T23:02:23.664+08:002010-05-28T23:02:23.664+08:00The question is: will any of the ministers allow t...The question is: will any of the ministers allow this to happen to their own son(s)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-39954100502774124162010-05-28T21:19:24.392+08:002010-05-28T21:19:24.392+08:00Whatever the reason, a cover-up is a cover-up, and...Whatever the reason, a cover-up is a cover-up, and a half-truth is a lie.Ah Gunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4405345292513335071.post-73210573299845179542010-05-28T17:22:24.776+08:002010-05-28T17:22:24.776+08:00On May 25, when ST reported incident, it is probab...On May 25, when ST reported incident, it is probably due to a statement released by MINDEF. Otherwise, ST won't be privy to such info.<br /><br />Why did MINDEF only released info that only 1 serviceman, who is a regular, is injured and chose to hide the info that another serviceman, a NSF, was also injured in the SAME incident ?<br /><br />This discrimination shows that MINDEF is afraid to release any info to the public for serious incidences that happened to NSFs.<br /><br />A while back, there was a heated discussion over NSFs insurance coverage. I'm sure it has some bearings on their decision to hide the injury to an NSFs but chose to release the info for the regular.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com